John Jay was a popular school located on 7th avenue. Lot of guys and gals from the neighborhood attended.
Tried Jay three times; 1978-80. It never worked out.
30 Tuesday Apr 2024
Posted Container Diaries, John Jay, Steve Finamore
inJohn Jay was a popular school located on 7th avenue. Lot of guys and gals from the neighborhood attended.
Tried Jay three times; 1978-80. It never worked out.
22 Saturday Jan 2022
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“LIFE IS LIKE SPORTS, YOU NEVER GIVE UP.” -Mickey Rourke
It’s probably not healthy but I often think of the mistakes I made as a youngster. And in no way do I blame anyone.
I’m a continuous learner and have been studying successful people in all walks of life for many years. I’m magnetized to successful people. Every day I try to learn something new. I have found you can learn from almost anyone.
One thing that set me back is probably the worst thing you can do in life, quitting.
It started when I was in the 5th grade. I played for the Bantam A basketball team at Holy Name. My memory is cloudy on this subject, I have no idea why I quit the team, it was stupid. The fact that I loved basketball, quitting the team was a surprise to me looking back.
I would go on to quit many more times; I would call it quits with my girlfriend a few times. She was the first female to say she loved me. I blew that one. She left me for another man.
I would quit jobs, including my very first Ironworking job when I was 18 and paid a serious price for that blunder.
Quitting is a disease. Hard to overcome it.
Probably the worst episode of quitting was dropping out of high school five times. Power Memorial, John Jay, LaSalle Academy (An alternative school in Canarsie), and John Jay two more times. I guess that makes dropping out of school six times.
Pathetic, I know.
You’re probably thinking, “let it go,” yeah I get it. It took me a long time to understand, “you don’t quit.”
Learning from your mistakes is a key in your progress. What I do now is try and pass the lessons on to the younger generation.
“DON’T QUIT…”
That’s probably number one in the Game of Life. Hang tough. Never give up. Stick it out. Find a way…we got this!
Hope all is well…
-Steve
E-Mail: SteveFinamore@yahoo.com
23 Monday Sep 2019
Found this image on the internet. Circa 1980ish…Love the winter coats.
02 Monday Oct 2017
Posted Blog, Container Diaries, Jack Ryan, John Jay, Patty Byrnes
inSad news to report.
Patty Byrnes has passed away.
Played for John Jay. Solid ball player. Could rebound well and defend. Played with Black Jack Ryan at Jay.
“I get the offensive rebounds and pass it out to Jackie,” Patty once told me.
Growing up back in the day Patty and his family lived on 8th avenue between Prospect and Windsor.
Condolences to the Byrnes family.
08 Saturday Oct 2016
When I was a teenager I hated school.
Most felt the same way, I think?
Difference between you and me? I didn’t persevere. Just gave up.
School?
Ha!
I’d rather hang out, do my own thing. Know what I mean?
Didn’t know the importance of an education. Had no idea. No clue. Who needs school? I’m going to be an Ironworker when I’m 18. That was the mind-set. That was the wrong mind-set.
Father, mother and older brother all dropped out of school. I followed their lead.
“For a boy to become a man, he must first see a man,” said J.R. Moeringher.
It started with Power Memorial. I was 14. The year was 1978. I lasted three days. Same high school as Dick Bavetta, Ed Klimkowski, Eddie Moss, Larry Petty, Jessie Fong, Mario Elie and Jerry Coles. I recall Jerry poking his head in my classroom first day of school asking how things were going? I looked at him and said to myself, “I hate it.“
Dreams of playing for their basketball team. Saw them play two years before. Said I wanted to be a Panther. Would go around telling everyone. All that was over. Two trains to the city. Too much. Had to wake up way too early.
What next? What do I tell my mother? She’ll be pissed. Ticked off.
Fear not young man. Enroll in John Jay. Seventh avenue. John Corrar. Patty Byrnes. Joe Pepitone. Freshmen and Sophomores in the afternoon. Juniors and seniors in the morning. I can sleep in.
Started skipping classes on the second day; few days later I was history.
Running.
Hiding.
Afraid.
At 15 you have no idea why you fear. (“Hey, get back in school, you can do this…) That’s all I needed.
Sure they tried to tell me to get back in school. I didn’t listen. An all important attribute. “Listening.”Older guys from the neighborhood preached. Lectured. Some even begged me. My girlfriend Maureen tried to convince me. My ears were closed.
Few weeks later I try LaSalle Academy down on the Lower East Side. Catholic school. Went 8 years to Holy Name. “The Big Lie,” but that’s a story for another time. Nuns, priests, discipline, wooden paddles, uniforms…
LaSalle is The Candy Man’s alma mater. John Roache. Tom Owens. Ron Artest.
The Cullen’s from 175 Windsor Place told me all about LaSalle.Good friends of mine growing up. Jimmy a year older, Frankie two years on me.
Said I would like it. They sure did.
Jerome Washington was a star player at the time. He was cool.Kid could really ball. Had hops too. Saw him one day shooting jumpers in their tiny gym. Thought to myself maybe I can play in the back-court with him? Poor son of a bitch passed away a few years ago. Think he was 48. Sad.
The LaSalle experiment lasted two months. Sorta. Maybe a month and a half. On the second day mom gave me $100 cash to buy a few required text books; I spent the money on cokes and buttered rolls every morning before school. On the weekends I would buy a bottle of Wild Irish Rose. The money was gone in 14 days.
Poor Mom, she and I tried John Jay a second time. Things didn’t work out. I lasted two weeks. I was petrified. There seemed to be like 10,000 kids in that school. The hallways were spooky. I didn’t know anyone. I was like a zombie walking the halls. Saw a few kids sneaking out a window in the stairwell. I jumped out with them. Ran up the block to Prospect Park. Walked around thinking this was so cool. Little did I know, I was fucking up.
Tried John Jay one more time.
Fall of 1980. Sixteen year-old freshman. But now a member of the the basketball team. Me, Ron Hardy, Keith Grady, Ed Saunders, Gary Phillips, whom we called ‘Doc’ because boy could he sky. I remember throwing him an ally-oop in practice. He was up so high he was talking to the Lord. And we had a really cool Hispanic kid from Bay Ridge, Merchado was his last night. One day him and I had two hours to kill before practice so we spent it watching a performance by some dancers in the auditorium. Pete Coakley was the coach; reminded me of the White Shadow. I was having a ball. Not going to class but going to practice. The day we got our uniforms, #30, I wore it outside. That night I slept in it.
Early December we played a few games; I got some playing time. My girlfriend Maureen bought me brand new Nike high-tops. But it hit me again; I quit the team. Dropped out of school. WTF?
Now what?
Winter of 1981 I start coaching a seventh grade basketball team at Holy Name.
Took a liking to it. Never went back to school. But the game did something for me. Believe it was the Basketball Gods who sent the message.
Fast forward 35 years; took and passed the G.E.D. exam. Enrolled in college. Got my college degree. These days I coach varsity basketball and substitute teach. Right now I have a long-term substitute job until Thanksgiving teaching English 3 and Anthropology/Sociology.
Should have been a teacher. I love being in the classroom with these wonderful kids.
-Red
Hoops135@hotmail.com
28 Friday Aug 2015
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22 Thursday Aug 2013
Posted Blog, John Jay, Zaid Abdul-Aziz
inOften times on the blog I mention John Jay High School down on seventh avenue.
I tried being a student there three different times; that has to be a record, right? As you know, it never worked out.
I also mention many of the basketball players from our neighborhood that suited up for the Indians. We also had a ton of kids from the neighborhood attend school there. Remember the freshmen and sophomores went from twelve non to five and the juniors and seniors went in the morning. Cool system, right?
Guys like John Corrar, Patty Byrnes (best rebounder I have ever seen in the Summer League) and my guy Jackie Ryan. Did you know Jimmy Fallon’s cousin Kevin played for Jay? He was a heck of a player too.
One afternoon while chatting with my friend Carl he mentioned that John Jay produced an NBA player; his name used to be Donald Smith. Now I know Joe Pepitone went there but I don’t ever recall an NBA player coming through.
I was like, “huh”?
Donald Smith played for John Jay before he went on to Iowa State to play his college ball and then had a ten-year career (1968-1978) in the NBA playing for seven different clubs. Played for Houston and Seattle twice.
Smith changed his name to Zaid Abdul-Aziz during his NBA days.
I’m not sure which neighborhood he lived in as a kid. Anyone remember?
Respectfully,
Red
Hoops135@hotmail.com