Hey theres my brother Ed, he’s living high on the hog in the Smoky Mountains of North Carolina now with his second wife, he’s got like 9 acres and a nice big house. I never realized who he graduated with.
Yep, I see him. Sorry the picture couldn’t be bigger and clearer. I’m still not at that stage computer-wise. I’m sure there is a way I could ‘make it nice’.
Coach, If you are using internet explorer with windows operating system,click on the page icon and use the zoom. The graduation picture gets big and clear. Computer wise? Without my wifes help, I wouldn’t get past turning the computer on.
Steve, couldn’t be better. I’m in the semi finals for the suburban travel league championship coaching my 12 year old son. I’m also getting a team together for the AAU season, I hear Indiana may be sending an offer:) Do they still need a coach?LOL
IU would be a great place. I worked their summer camp a few years ago, had a blast.
Keep working your kids hard – lots of reps on their shooting and a lot of ball handling drills and make sure they don’t care who gets the credit for scoring…
Can’t agree more..The best teams I played on either summer league or high school.. guys put winning first, numbers second.
I had 5 years coaching my son’s and daughter’s teams and it was a blast. I even got some of them to use the backboard which has become a lost art in scoring for all levels of hoops.
Yep I agree all around and understand and before anyone gets the wrong idea no my 12 year old did not get any offers from college, I was joking about my coaching skills. I win a few games and it goes right to my head. I have to smack myself every once and awhile and remind myself “its only 12 year old basketball, calm down Kev your not the real Coach K”.
Anybody from this august group looking in? If you are, you might recall that we were way ahead of “Heaven Help Us.” Remember who punched out Bro. Brian? Recalling previous posts, you’ll notice that Al Collura’s (RIP) picture is included. Of course you all remember who won the World Series!!!
Tommy – Good stuff. Hope your classmates are reading.
Kev- I’ve been coaching for close to 20 years now, at all levels. It’s 80% players and 20% coaching. (:
Jimmy – I always teach kids to use the glass especially from the side. We do a drill where you have the ball in the corner, shot fake and go two dribbles for the bank shot. Watch Timmy Duncan, he is the master of the backboard.
Steve,
Duncan has killed the Knicks over the years.. He’s definitely old school which more of these guys should be. I think the best
I’ve seen using the glass was Oscar, West, Chet Walker, Bird, and McHale… all HOF except Walker who should be.
I disagree to a degree regarding what the present day players are being taught. I don’t think that it is necessarily that they are being taught that scoring points and dunking is what it’s all about. But rather, these kids are surrounded (some at a very young age) by a group of friends/advisors/hangers on who tend to blow their heads so far out of proportion that they have a warped view of the game and life in general.
Every year lots of kids leave HS and College early to enter the NBA draft. Many of them do so on the advice of their so-called friends. As you know, very few of them ever make it to the NBA and succeed in advancing their careers to the level that they could have attained had they stayed in school and further developed a solid game. I understand that these kids leaving to try and grab the brass ring but if they are not mentally and physically up to the challenge they will simply wash out. How sad it is for for a kid of 17-21 years of age to have nothing left to fall back on.
FYI, that is one reason why I love mid-major teams and conferences. The kids rarely leave school early and that means that you get to see a lot of senior laden, very talented teams taking it to the big boys every March in the NCAA tourney.
Basically we are preaching the same thing. When I say they are being taught that scoring is most important, they are doing so because with a lot of points come the headlines; with the headlines comes the high draft stock.
Now I’m not saying ‘the teacher/coach’ is responsible – what I’m saying is the outsiders (parents, hanger-ons, friends, etc.) are telling the players all of this.
When was the last time you witnessed a college undergraduate declaring for the draft with a scoring avg. under 10 points? (Unless that player had no interest in school or was kicked out)
Instead of passing the ball, most kids would rather score. Instead of locking down on defense, kids would rather get out on the break and leave the defense to someone else.
On offense, possessions are not valued like they should be. Kids are careless with the ball, they look to go one-on-one – forgetting their 4 teammates.
I agree. Thinking back to the old days when we were running full court in the HN schoolyard I can remember that guys often did not want to hurl the ball down court to a basket hanger. After all, if you played freat defence 4 on 5 to get the rock back why give it up to a guy who wasn’t part of it.
I agree 100% about kids not valuing the basketball. In some cases I can excuse the turmover off a hustle play but most times the TO is cause by laziness or trying to get themselves on Sportscenter.
Yeah it was Godfrey. Remember it like it was yesterday. We all got in trouble for not breaking it up. We just crowded around in a circle and enjoyed the show. It was more like a hockey fight with a lot of rolling around.
At least no one jumped in…
My kids don’t believe it when I tell them I got hit in every grade (by teachers) in HN except 1st (I was too little). First and only time I saw a kid give some back.
Hey Tom-
I remember in seventh grade- Bro.V worked himself into a frenzy at his desk and just smacked you on top of the head with a book. Hard. You didn’t do anything wrong, he was pissed at the entire class and took it out on you because of your seat being closest to him. (If your kids don’t believe it let them read this.) I did feel bad for you, but we were all frozen in fear that he would start whacking all of us with the paddle. I was relieved when he finally gave us some punish lesson to perform- Like write some crazy word or sentence a million times. Seemed like I was always writing a punish lesson.
Hey GW (tell me who you are),
I think I still have the dents in my head. Bro Vinny had the Jeckyll and Hyde thing going on back then. I actually ran into him a few yrs back at Ford’s Theatre in DC – he was on a tour with some old folks from Staten Island (or NJ, same thing…) where he was stationed. Still looks the same, still a bro. but under his new (real) name.
Do you remember when Bro Vinny left the room and came back to erasers flying around the room. He grilled us at tried to make us rat out the last guy (I think it was Al Collura) who threw the eraser. The class, being all stand-up guys of course, also afraid of payback in the schoolyard, said nothing. So he threatened to give everyone two shots. For those who missed the glory days of corporal punishment, these were administered to the “alleged poipetraitor” on the ass, bent over a desk, with a wooden paddle or board about 3/4 in thick.
Anyway, back to the the eraser story. No one ratted anyone out and those of us used to getting paddled got a real charge out of watching the more well-behaved among us getting whacked, I think some for the first time.
At least shots didn’t ruin your nite or weekend – like having to write SILENCE 300 times in three different colored pens, alternating letters. Do you remember rubber-banding three pens together so you could do three lines at once. I still remember in first grade folding the page over in the composition book to write “a page of I’s” – I just made 4 long lines and erased across the page to make the lines into I’s. Part of the fun of HN was getting around the rules.
Bro Vinny if you’re out there no hard feelings.
Tom
Funny how memories differ. Thought it was Mr. Mcnally that gave out the silence punish lesson. 3 colors and alternating letters. Remember doing it 500 times.
The whole class is getting shots punishment meted out by Bro. Vincent. 3 shots in rapid sucesson delivered with bad intent. In the cloak room hanging onto the clothes hooks as thoughts of serious injury flashed through the brain until feeling returned to the legs.
Bro. Vincent would be safe at a reunion as long as there was no alcohol involved because after a few drinks, he is going to get a little beating. Just for old times sakes.
Manktelow, Your last paragraph says it all !!!. I’m pretty sure many former classmates would make a sizeable donation towards the liquer fund if that reunion came about.
K.Molloy said:
Hey theres my brother Ed, he’s living high on the hog in the Smoky Mountains of North Carolina now with his second wife, he’s got like 9 acres and a nice big house. I never realized who he graduated with.
Coach F said:
Yep, I see him. Sorry the picture couldn’t be bigger and clearer. I’m still not at that stage computer-wise. I’m sure there is a way I could ‘make it nice’.
Kev, hope all is well.
manktelow said:
Coach, If you are using internet explorer with windows operating system,click on the page icon and use the zoom. The graduation picture gets big and clear. Computer wise? Without my wifes help, I wouldn’t get past turning the computer on.
K.Molloy said:
Steve, couldn’t be better. I’m in the semi finals for the suburban travel league championship coaching my 12 year old son. I’m also getting a team together for the AAU season, I hear Indiana may be sending an offer:) Do they still need a coach?LOL
hoopscoach said:
IU would be a great place. I worked their summer camp a few years ago, had a blast.
Keep working your kids hard – lots of reps on their shooting and a lot of ball handling drills and make sure they don’t care who gets the credit for scoring…
jim vackner said:
Can’t agree more..The best teams I played on either summer league or high school.. guys put winning first, numbers second.
I had 5 years coaching my son’s and daughter’s teams and it was a blast. I even got some of them to use the backboard which has become a lost art in scoring for all levels of hoops.
mrs. morly said:
OH MY GOD!!! There’s my husband! HA HAAA HAAAA….
K.Molloy said:
Yep I agree all around and understand and before anyone gets the wrong idea no my 12 year old did not get any offers from college, I was joking about my coaching skills. I win a few games and it goes right to my head. I have to smack myself every once and awhile and remind myself “its only 12 year old basketball, calm down Kev your not the real Coach K”.
Tommy Cole said:
Anybody from this august group looking in? If you are, you might recall that we were way ahead of “Heaven Help Us.” Remember who punched out Bro. Brian? Recalling previous posts, you’ll notice that Al Collura’s (RIP) picture is included. Of course you all remember who won the World Series!!!
hoopscoach said:
Tommy – Good stuff. Hope your classmates are reading.
Kev- I’ve been coaching for close to 20 years now, at all levels. It’s 80% players and 20% coaching. (:
Jimmy – I always teach kids to use the glass especially from the side. We do a drill where you have the ball in the corner, shot fake and go two dribbles for the bank shot. Watch Timmy Duncan, he is the master of the backboard.
jim vackner said:
Steve,
Duncan has killed the Knicks over the years.. He’s definitely old school which more of these guys should be. I think the best
I’ve seen using the glass was Oscar, West, Chet Walker, Bird, and McHale… all HOF except Walker who should be.
hoopscoach said:
JV,
Different values with a lot of players these days…They are being taught that scoring points and dunking is what it’s all about.
Jerry Cole said:
Coach,
I disagree to a degree regarding what the present day players are being taught. I don’t think that it is necessarily that they are being taught that scoring points and dunking is what it’s all about. But rather, these kids are surrounded (some at a very young age) by a group of friends/advisors/hangers on who tend to blow their heads so far out of proportion that they have a warped view of the game and life in general.
Every year lots of kids leave HS and College early to enter the NBA draft. Many of them do so on the advice of their so-called friends. As you know, very few of them ever make it to the NBA and succeed in advancing their careers to the level that they could have attained had they stayed in school and further developed a solid game. I understand that these kids leaving to try and grab the brass ring but if they are not mentally and physically up to the challenge they will simply wash out. How sad it is for for a kid of 17-21 years of age to have nothing left to fall back on.
FYI, that is one reason why I love mid-major teams and conferences. The kids rarely leave school early and that means that you get to see a lot of senior laden, very talented teams taking it to the big boys every March in the NCAA tourney.
Jerry
hoopscoach said:
JC,
Basically we are preaching the same thing. When I say they are being taught that scoring is most important, they are doing so because with a lot of points come the headlines; with the headlines comes the high draft stock.
Now I’m not saying ‘the teacher/coach’ is responsible – what I’m saying is the outsiders (parents, hanger-ons, friends, etc.) are telling the players all of this.
When was the last time you witnessed a college undergraduate declaring for the draft with a scoring avg. under 10 points? (Unless that player had no interest in school or was kicked out)
Instead of passing the ball, most kids would rather score. Instead of locking down on defense, kids would rather get out on the break and leave the defense to someone else.
On offense, possessions are not valued like they should be. Kids are careless with the ball, they look to go one-on-one – forgetting their 4 teammates.
Jerry Cole said:
Coach,
I agree. Thinking back to the old days when we were running full court in the HN schoolyard I can remember that guys often did not want to hurl the ball down court to a basket hanger. After all, if you played freat defence 4 on 5 to get the rock back why give it up to a guy who wasn’t part of it.
I agree 100% about kids not valuing the basketball. In some cases I can excuse the turmover off a hustle play but most times the TO is cause by laziness or trying to get themselves on Sportscenter.
JC
Kenny Whelan said:
If I remember correctly, Kevin Godfrey punched out Brother Brian.
Tom Fields said:
Yeah it was Godfrey. Remember it like it was yesterday. We all got in trouble for not breaking it up. We just crowded around in a circle and enjoyed the show. It was more like a hockey fight with a lot of rolling around.
At least no one jumped in…
My kids don’t believe it when I tell them I got hit in every grade (by teachers) in HN except 1st (I was too little). First and only time I saw a kid give some back.
GW said:
Hey Tom-
I remember in seventh grade- Bro.V worked himself into a frenzy at his desk and just smacked you on top of the head with a book. Hard. You didn’t do anything wrong, he was pissed at the entire class and took it out on you because of your seat being closest to him. (If your kids don’t believe it let them read this.) I did feel bad for you, but we were all frozen in fear that he would start whacking all of us with the paddle. I was relieved when he finally gave us some punish lesson to perform- Like write some crazy word or sentence a million times. Seemed like I was always writing a punish lesson.
Hope you are well, Tom. Take care.
Tom Fields said:
Hey GW (tell me who you are),
I think I still have the dents in my head. Bro Vinny had the Jeckyll and Hyde thing going on back then. I actually ran into him a few yrs back at Ford’s Theatre in DC – he was on a tour with some old folks from Staten Island (or NJ, same thing…) where he was stationed. Still looks the same, still a bro. but under his new (real) name.
Do you remember when Bro Vinny left the room and came back to erasers flying around the room. He grilled us at tried to make us rat out the last guy (I think it was Al Collura) who threw the eraser. The class, being all stand-up guys of course, also afraid of payback in the schoolyard, said nothing. So he threatened to give everyone two shots. For those who missed the glory days of corporal punishment, these were administered to the “alleged poipetraitor” on the ass, bent over a desk, with a wooden paddle or board about 3/4 in thick.
Anyway, back to the the eraser story. No one ratted anyone out and those of us used to getting paddled got a real charge out of watching the more well-behaved among us getting whacked, I think some for the first time.
At least shots didn’t ruin your nite or weekend – like having to write SILENCE 300 times in three different colored pens, alternating letters. Do you remember rubber-banding three pens together so you could do three lines at once. I still remember in first grade folding the page over in the composition book to write “a page of I’s” – I just made 4 long lines and erased across the page to make the lines into I’s. Part of the fun of HN was getting around the rules.
Bro Vinny if you’re out there no hard feelings.
Tom
manktelow said:
Funny how memories differ. Thought it was Mr. Mcnally that gave out the silence punish lesson. 3 colors and alternating letters. Remember doing it 500 times.
The whole class is getting shots punishment meted out by Bro. Vincent. 3 shots in rapid sucesson delivered with bad intent. In the cloak room hanging onto the clothes hooks as thoughts of serious injury flashed through the brain until feeling returned to the legs.
Bro. Vincent would be safe at a reunion as long as there was no alcohol involved because after a few drinks, he is going to get a little beating. Just for old times sakes.
hoopscoach said:
Manktelow-
Forgiveness my man…
Lineman said:
Manktelow, Your last paragraph says it all !!!. I’m pretty sure many former classmates would make a sizeable donation towards the liquer fund if that reunion came about.